tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post8932265082833565938..comments2023-11-20T05:01:03.614-08:00Comments on The Lakefront Trail: Running a Smarter 2015 Chicago MarathonPete Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-65521101815643636762015-10-01T14:04:43.317-07:002015-10-01T14:04:43.317-07:00Yes, I think I figured it out last year since it w...Yes, I think I figured it out last year since it was the second year in a row that I sped up too much right after my potty break. My potty stops were both around mile 6, when I would leave a pace group, ditch into a porta-john and then try to get back with them ASAP, even though really I had another 20 miles to do so. I guess my mantra after a one minute potty break should be "chip away slowly". I just need to run 3 seconds/mile faster over 20 miles to get back on track, rather than 60 seconds faster to get back on track! :)Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-13526079631762432812015-10-01T13:58:29.651-07:002015-10-01T13:58:29.651-07:00Thanks Sara! I like my new Garmin, it actually syn...Thanks Sara! I like my new Garmin, it actually syncs with my phone via Bluetooth and tracks my steps and sleep! However, the heart rate monitor does not work all of the time. I'm starting to think that HRMs and me don't get along!Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-48026176249217685652015-10-01T13:56:16.927-07:002015-10-01T13:56:16.927-07:00Thanks! I don't take salt pills, but I did tak...Thanks! I don't take salt pills, but I did take a salt packet from someone in Central Park when I ran the NYCM. I may get one or two and see how it works. I definitely need to up my nutrition frequency to every 4 to 5 miles like you, but it is a constant struggle to see if my stomach will let me get more Gu in it! :)Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-2402336492431078142015-10-01T10:40:46.409-07:002015-10-01T10:40:46.409-07:00Your scientific and thorough analyses never cease ...Your scientific and thorough analyses never cease to amaze me. These are really, really great focus points. I especially like the one about accounting for a bathroom stop. I never plan for portapotty breaks, and always end up cursing myself when I unexpectedly take one. Always better to plan for it and not need it, then to not plan for it and throw yourself off mentally when you do!emmers712https://www.blogger.com/profile/15865493476823978890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-32191863465968560792015-10-01T00:27:20.173-07:002015-10-01T00:27:20.173-07:00Sounds like a great plan! I'm glad the negativ...Sounds like a great plan! I'm glad the negative split is number one on your list - you can do it! How do you like the new Garmin? Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219737912315601922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-88207850986845529172015-09-30T17:34:17.584-07:002015-09-30T17:34:17.584-07:00I love your detailed analysis :) I think purposely...I love your detailed analysis :) I think purposely gong out 10 Sec a mile or whatever the difference is between the calculator and a few min slower will help you a lot. Also recognizing you surge at mile 13-14 is now on your radar so you hopefully won't do it again :) do you take salt pills? I usually would take a gu every 4.5 miles and a salt pill with them. Xaarlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12846036242883194347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-31442064619092117422015-09-29T07:53:54.598-07:002015-09-29T07:53:54.598-07:00Thanks. Good luck with your plan too! :)Thanks. Good luck with your plan too! :)Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-86391317291428368992015-09-29T07:53:38.659-07:002015-09-29T07:53:38.659-07:00Okay then, I'm going to watch my watch like a ...Okay then, I'm going to watch my watch like a hawk! Maybe I can program it to yell at me when I'm going too fast. Thanks, I hope so! :)Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-7878576291031664922015-09-29T07:16:36.975-07:002015-09-29T07:16:36.975-07:00My only tip is #2! I watch my watch like a hawk an...My only tip is #2! I watch my watch like a hawk and keep slowing down when it gets too high! I think you got this!!!! :)Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03201592937889358953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-26296011208195749182015-09-28T18:56:49.218-07:002015-09-28T18:56:49.218-07:00Great plan! I guess I have to start thinking abou...Great plan! I guess I have to start thinking about mine too. :-)Zenaida Arroyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18137949290555784656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-70623179506059584192015-09-28T14:23:38.654-07:002015-09-28T14:23:38.654-07:00How are these? 1) I will try lining up in the back...How are these? 1) I will try lining up in the back of my corral, maybe behind the 3:10 group. 2) I will be constantly checking my GPS watch to make sure I am on my targeted early paces. 3) In the early miles I will try to envision what I will feel like during in miles 23 through 26.2 if I go out too fast! Any tips that work for you?Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-77780021218536664792015-09-28T12:51:20.356-07:002015-09-28T12:51:20.356-07:00Great analysis and great ideas! How do you plan to...Great analysis and great ideas! How do you plan to not go out too fast?Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03201592937889358953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-85420095681382162082015-09-28T11:55:21.228-07:002015-09-28T11:55:21.228-07:00That brings up a good point. Do 90% of marathoners...That brings up a good point. Do 90% of marathoners have charts that look like ours? I guess it is fairly easy to "run over our heads" in a marathon and then realize at mile 20 that we ran too fast too early. Good luck at the TC this weekend and good luck with the negative splits!Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-61576879350330948232015-09-28T11:53:45.050-07:002015-09-28T11:53:45.050-07:00Thanks Michelle!! Cool that you were able to negat...Thanks Michelle!! Cool that you were able to negative split your PR race! I need to remember to run with my heart as well. Thanks again!Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-13536664275973317702015-09-28T11:34:30.934-07:002015-09-28T11:34:30.934-07:00It's scary how similar my chart is compared to...It's scary how similar my chart is compared to yours. It hasn't helped that I actually "ran over my head" for the first half my last couple races just to see if I could maintain it or not. I plan or running evenly until mile 23 if possible and then hurting for the last 3.2 miles. Hopefully the negative split works out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08936115046087285691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-73442512541325829772015-09-28T09:41:55.073-07:002015-09-28T09:41:55.073-07:00I love how you analyze and chart your data. That ...I love how you analyze and chart your data. That is too cool. I've run 3 full marathons, (SLOW compared to you) and I actually negative splitted my second (and PR race) somehow. I think I just ran with heart and left it all out there. BEST wishes on your Chicago Marathon. I know you'll rock it!Michelle @ www.movinitwithmichelle.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04819142037609485717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-72531775683057565092015-09-28T08:36:18.331-07:002015-09-28T08:36:18.331-07:00Ha, ha. Actually, I never consider it and I don...Ha, ha. Actually, I never consider it and I don't know if I could since I've never done it while running. I guess if I had to go badly enough then it's worth a shot!Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-43972723615990885922015-09-28T08:15:17.317-07:002015-09-28T08:15:17.317-07:00If it's just a #1, you could always piss yours...If it's just a #1, you could always piss yourself. Seriously! I've known many people that have done it as they were going for their goals in marathons. I promise I won't tell anyone if you do.Jeff Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715715539451980634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-87375500443384817602015-09-28T07:58:25.256-07:002015-09-28T07:58:25.256-07:00Yes, I'm really gunning for a negative split, ...Yes, I'm really gunning for a negative split, but would take a slight positive split if I can PR! :) Thanks!Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-22693498199602586092015-09-28T07:57:44.091-07:002015-09-28T07:57:44.091-07:00Yeah, the porta potty stops are not fun. Luckily I...Yeah, the porta potty stops are not fun. Luckily I found an open one, but it was at the end of a long row of them. I don't know how ticked I would be if I had to stand there and wait! Yes, here's hoping that the weather is cool! :)Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-37314530607530491152015-09-28T04:42:56.936-07:002015-09-28T04:42:56.936-07:00Your plan sounds great! Without even looking I kno...Your plan sounds great! Without even looking I know I have 1. never run a negative split, d'oh, and 2. also find that the pace calculator just doesn't match what actually happens on marathon race day, haha. Sounds like you're going to have a kickass marathon! Good luck!Tammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648442241652746073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-26272088008050102702015-09-27T18:21:32.438-07:002015-09-27T18:21:32.438-07:00Oh, the dreaded portapotty stops. I had 2 last yea...Oh, the dreaded portapotty stops. I had 2 last year. I also had a technological glitch, when my iPhone flashlight turned on and wouldn't stop. I've been working on all that and I'm hoping to avoid those things. Really, for me, the wild card is the weather. I hope to have all the rest under control. Ha!Wendy at Taking the Long Way Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09934786207724059919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-32008433216985535772015-09-27T06:24:08.923-07:002015-09-27T06:24:08.923-07:00Thanks Steve. That's good advice and I am goin...Thanks Steve. That's good advice and I am going to need all of my mental energy to keep an even pace and not surge. I am definitely going to try and force down some gels! Thanks again! :)Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-90307523254947454812015-09-27T06:22:55.352-07:002015-09-27T06:22:55.352-07:00I am hoping I'll get an orange slice somewhere...I am hoping I'll get an orange slice somewhere during the final 10 miles! That story about cutting across the street reminds me of my 3:05:03 in L.A. Someone was shouting from the other side of the street that they came all the way out there for a high-five, so I ran over to him to give him a high-five. It probably cost me at least 10 seconds. I definitely could have gone sub-3:05 without doing it! Oh well, I had fun!Pete Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655789227670205830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1804307342977220552.post-71024396498804506932015-09-27T05:49:09.996-07:002015-09-27T05:49:09.996-07:00Good plan, Pete. Now just remember not to put in ...Good plan, Pete. Now just remember not to put in any kind of surge (no matter how good you feel and how much adrenaline is going through you) until maybe mile 23 or 24. Just try to maintain your pace (as you know, your body will get tired just from that). Also, use those gels. 5 or 6 at least to help prevent the wall. Good luck! I'll be watching for you.<br /><br />Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786117623322129328noreply@blogger.com